Palm Pre vs Motorola 里程碑,来着PRETHINKING的评论

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-2 21:59

Multitasking:

多任务处理

Multitasking is one of the most important features of both WebOS and Android. It is what sets them apart from the king of kings known as the iPhone and makes them more enjoyable for us geeks as well as less irritating for average users who don't want to have to exit their navigation app to read a text message. So the big question is how does the Droid multitask compared to the Pre? Is one better than the other? Let's take a look at what I have found.

多任务处理能力是两个平台最重要的特征之一。这一点使他们与牛机中的战斗机iPhone有了明确的不同，并且让我们这些稍有些变态的用户感到使用起来更有意思，而普通用户则因此不必忍受“必须退出导航才能看短信”这种折磨。那么，问题就在于怎么比较Pre和Droid的多任务能力？两款手机有高下之分吗？看看我都发现了什么吧。

WebOS: With the Palm Pre/Pixi multitasking is seamless and fun. It is as simple as swiping your finger up at any time to minimize an app and swiping left and right to shuffle through your apps (known as cards on WebOS) and just tapping on one to jump back into it. The Pre's multitasking is very intuitive and essentially limitless. The ability to handle processes in the background on both native and third party apps is a very powerful tool and makes day to day use more efficient and easy. WebOS allows you to get things done in the background. An example of this would be launching a browser, typing an address, then minimizing the browser to go to your messaging app to send a text. Once you finish sending a text you can go back to your browser card and see that the page finished loading while sending a text. You can do this all while Sprint Nav is running in another card in the background.

WebOS：在Palm Pre和Pixi上，多任务处理是原生的而且使用起来趣味性很强。任何时候做一个上划手势表示最小化当前程序、左划或右划可以在程序（在Pre上叫做卡片）间切换，点击任何一个卡片就能进入这个程序。 Pre的多任务处理相当直观也没有对应用的种类加以限制。能够对原生的和第三方的程序都做多任务管理的能力非常强悍，令得Pre在处理日常事务方面更加有效率也更加容易。WebOS可以在后台完成应用程序的运行，例如打开浏览器输入地址后就可以最小化放到后台，这个时候你可以随意做点儿什么例如发个短信之类，等做完了再打开刚才的浏览器卡片，就可以查看在刚才干别的事情的时候在后台已经完成加载的页面了。导航软件同样也可以在后台工作（把导航软件最小化成一个卡片），期间你在前台想做什么就做什么，互不干扰（作者想表述的意思是，即使导航软件这样需要不断输出语音提示的应用，一样可以放在后台持续运行，而前台做一些需要交互的工作，例如发短信）。

Android: Android multitasks a bit different and because you don't see all the windows (or cards in WebOS) like you do in WebOS some people don't feel like it is multitasking. This is inaccurate. Android multitasks and it multitasks well. With Android, apps don't close manually or automatically unless you completely run out of memory then it will begin closing the least used apps. So how do you switch through your active apps? Well there are a couple ways. Some apps will integrate into the notification tray at the top of the screen. Apps that usually do this are Google Maps, the Music app, and the phone app when on a call. You can slide the tray down at any time within almost every app and tap on that app to return to it. Another way is just by going to your home screen and tapping on the icon of an app you were just in. Much like in WebOS when you tap an app that is already open it just returns you to that app. Then you have the long press of the home button. You can just hold the home button and when you first press your finger on it you get haptic feedback then after about a second you feel it again and you can lift your finger and you will see the 6 most recent apps you have used. Just tap on an app you need to go to and it will open back up in the state it was in when you last used it. So which one is better?

Android： Android的多任务处理有些区别，用户无法看到所有打开的窗口（或WebOS中所说的程序卡片），所以有些用户觉得Android不是个多任务的平台。这是个误解。Android确实是多任务的而且处理能力也还不错。 Android平台里，除非你耗尽了内存时系统会自动关闭使用频率最低的应用程序，否则所有的程序都不会真正关闭，无论是手工“关闭”还是系统自动“关闭”（实际上都打开过的程序都保持在后台运行，虽然可能并不是全力在运行--译者注）。那怎么能切换到那些正在运行的程序里呢？有几种办法：有些集成了顶端提示栏的应用，像Google地图、音乐播放器和正在通话的电话等。这种情况下，用户可以下划提示栏，可以看到（集成了提示栏功能的）应用程序占据一个提示行，点击就可以切换到指定的程序里。另一种方法是按“home”键回到起始页，重新点击应用程序的图标，如果之前已经启动过，就可以切换到正在后台运行的程序。与WebOS里类似的操作差不多——当你点击一个已经打开过的WebOS程序的图标，会切换到正在运行的程序卡片里。还有一种方法就是长按“Home”键，两次触觉反馈之后会调出一个容纳6项最近使用过的程序的列表，选择一个你要打开的应用程序点击一下就行了，这时程序界面将重新打开并保留着之前退出时的状态。

说了这么多，两款手机的多任务方式，哪个更可爱一些呢？

It really is up to you. WebOS has a simple solution that is easy to use. Some think WebOS gives instant satisfaction because you can see all your apps open at once in card view. Android has the apps all sort of hidden in the background, but getting to them works just as well. If I was forced to choose, I would pick WebOS multitasking. I mean what can I say, sometimes it is just fun to flip through cards.

这完全取决于用户自己的感觉。 WebOS的多任务非常简单易用。有些人认为WebOS给用户带来一种美妙的感觉，因为一眼就能看到都打开了哪些程序（卡片）。Android把所有应用都藏在后台了，不过重新进入程序的过程也非常顺畅。如果非要选一个，我会选择WebOS。有时候在卡片之间跳来跳去感觉还是挺好玩儿的。

[ Edited by mpan on 2010-12-3 23:49 ]

Sability · 发表于 2010-12-2 22:03

楼上比较给力呀，不过还是看原文吧，只要过英语4级看这个绰绰有余

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-2 22:23

原帖由 Sability 于 2010-12-2 22:03 发表
' ]# j5 U! g8 A: V楼上比较给力呀，不过还是看原文吧，只要过英语4级看这个绰绰有余

谢谢兄弟夸奖，勉力而为

[ Edited by mpan on 2010-12-3 23:47 ]

xh116 · 发表于 2010-12-2 23:23

顶一下翻译的！
我六级，翻译的肯定没你好，ls说四级最多只是能看懂，你写出来，能语言组织这么好是下了功夫的！！

cardmaster · 发表于 2010-12-3 00:12

翻译得很用心，崇拜mpan！！

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-3 01:30

Notifications:

提醒信息：

Another fantastic thing about WebOS and Android is that the notification implementation is unobtrusive and easy to use. There are some subtle differences but for the most part the notification area is very well done on both parts. WebOS has a notification tray at the bottom of the phone. The screen will actually resize itself to fit the notifications when you tap on a notification. When tapping at the bottom right it launches the dash board which shrinks the screen and shows you all of your notifications. From here you can swipe away each notification from the left to right to get rid of them. If you want to find out more about that notification or jump into the app that the notification came from simply tap on it. You also can re arrange and put your notifications in a new order by tapping it, holding it, then dragging it up and down in the list. WebOS also allows developers to add controls to the dashboard. For example we have Pandora, a music streaming app that allows you to control the pause and play button as well as the rating controls in the dashboard. Anytime you want to pause the music you are listening to in Pandora you can just tap the notification area and you will see controls for pausing and playing. Tweed, a third party Twitter application, also takes advantage of this feature by giving you a button to press to flip through notifications indicating your timeline tweets, mentions, and direct messages. Android doesn't quite have this much control in the notification tray. At least not yet.

WebOS和Android的另一个妙哉之处，是提醒信息的实现非常巧妙、不易察觉但非常易用。两款手机的这个功能有些微的差异，实际上两款手机的提醒区都工作得相当好。 WebOS的提醒栏在屏幕下方，当用户触击提醒信息时，屏幕内容区会自动调整尺寸，好让提醒区正常显示信息。当触击屏幕右下角时（实际上这里是指当右下角出现有提醒图标时--译者注），会启动一个能显示所有提醒信息条目的显示板（Dashboard），为了容纳显示板，屏幕内容区会更大幅度地压缩尺寸。在显示板上可以右划直接删除看过的信息。想更多了解提醒信息的具体内容，触击信息条目就能启动发出这个提醒的程序。甚至还能通过触摸拖拽重新排序这些信息条目。WebOS还支持开发者增加对显示板的控制。例如音乐播放程序Pandora，就能在显示板上放上播放和暂停按钮，以及等级控制等操作。任何时候想暂停播放，触击一下提醒区就能调出播放控制按钮。 Tweed，一个第三方Twitter应用，也利用了这个先进的功能——在信息条上提供了一个按钮，可以轮换显示新Tweet/关注信息/直接（发给自己的）信息等内容。 Android没有这些对信息区域的控制能力，至少现在还没有。

With the notification tray on the Droid you can slide it down from the top of the screen. When you do so it will display the date, time, and all of the notifications you have from various applications. My biggest issue with this is you have to either tap on one of the notifications, which will bring you to the app and clear the alert, or hit the 'Clear All' button on the top right of the tray. There is no way to just remove one application in the tray like you can do with WebOS. Another thing is controls. Most controls on things like the Music app or Pandora can be handled with a widget on the desktop but not from the notification tray like with WebOS. The tray itself has no controls for any of these apps. I am not 100% sure if that is an SDK limitation or if it is just something no one has decided to include, but it would be very useful. The fact that the notifications are at the top on Android and at the bottom on WebOS really makes no difference to me. I feel it works fine either way.

在Droid的提醒栏（屏幕左上方）上可以向下滑动打开显示板，显示日期、时间和所有不同应用程序发出的提醒信息。这里最大的问题是：你可以挨个儿点击信息条——这会启动发出提醒的程序；或者在显示区右上角点击“清除”，所有提醒信息确实也就清除了。但是无论如何都不能一条条地清除这些提醒信息，像WebOS那样（实际上就无法做到只清除部分无用信息，而保留一些有用的提醒--译者注）。另外一个问题是控制。大部分需要控制操作的程序，像音乐播放器或Pandora这样的，可以通过桌面插件来控制，但不能通过提醒区完成控制操作。提醒栏也不能为应用程序提供任何控制操作。我不能100%确定这是因为受到SDK功能的限制，还是压根儿就没人规划设计过这种操作方式，其实这种操作确实挺有用的。

无论是Android的顶部提醒栏，还是WebOS的底部提醒栏，实际上对我个人来说都可以接受。二者都能很正常的完成各自的功能。

[ Edited by mpan on 2010-12-3 01:33 ]

huanfengxia · 发表于 2010-12-3 08:31

真厉害，翻译的很好，期待后续呵呵。

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-3 12:48

App Catalog vs Android Market

软件商店（WebOS的应用目录和Android的电子市场）

The App Catalog is small. Plain and simple. Though we are seeing a stunning amount of growth in the App Catalog going from just 12 apps to over 700 apps in a little over 5 months. Android is currently growing even faster. In the same time frame WebOS received over 700 new apps Android has grown from 7,500 apps to 14,000 apps. So if you are looking for a phone with an already flurrying application ecosystem, then right now Android is the better choice. I do feel confident that WebOS will grow to the level it needs to grow, but as of now there aren't nearly as many apps. What about the quality of apps?

WebOS的应用目录比较小，显得比较单薄和简单。虽然我们看到目录中数量增长率比较可观，但实际上5个月期间也就达到了700个左右。 Android电子市场的增长就快得多了，在WebOS应用达到700个的同时期，电子市场应用软件的总数从7500个增加到了14000个。所以如果希望找一款应用发展比较丰富的产品，当下Android是个更好的选择。不过我个人对WebOS应用软件市场增长到一个正常的水平很有信心，只是现在的数量还不够多。

那么应用软件的质量如何呢？

Right now neither WebOS nor Android have the app quality that the iPhone has. Games aren't as rich or full of graphic detail and the applications just don't have as much depth. Still we are already seeing applications from both Android and WebOS that are impressive and can do things that Apple wouldn't dream of. Some examples is dxHome or aHome in the Android market. These apps essentially allow you to change how the GUI of Android works. You can change the launcher bar, wallpapers, icons, and change how the home screens work. Also with WebOS you have apps like Flixter which can add events to your native calendar, Pandora which allow you to add controls in the dashboard, and Switcharoo which lets you automatically change your wallpaper every few minutes. Things are still simple but moving along. As far as quality between Android and WebOS. Java vs HTML. With HTML 5 developing rapidly and WebGL and Google's 03D on the way, things are starting to look very bright for WebOS. On the other hand Android apps still don't seem to be very eye capturing. WebOS apps generally are easier on the eyes and more graphically pleasing even if they are still simple. When the SDK allows GPU access and WebGL development, those apps will be even more beautiful. For now Apple is king and will be for a while. Definitely hold your breath though because WebOS and Android development is growing.

目前，无论Android还是WebOS的应用软件质量还比不上iPhone。游戏的图像细节不够丰富，应用开发的深度也不足。不过Android和WebOS的应用发展令人印象深刻，而且确实有些东西Apple可能想都还没想到。例如Android电子市场里的dxHome和aHome应用。这些应用能让用户更换Android运行时的GUI（用户图形接口。这里貌似作者表达的不够准确，实际上更换的是用户界面的主题，如同给软件换肤。作者认为iPhone可能不屑于这种美化界面的软件，所以有这么一说。但实际上iOS下也有许多更换界面主题的软件。不知道是不是作者摆了个乌龙。有了解的童鞋请补充。--译者注），更换启动栏、墙纸、图标甚至是起始页面的工作方式。 WebOS上也有类似Flixter这样的软件，可以往内置的日历应用中添加事件。 Pandora更允许把控制操作添加到提醒区信息板上。Switcharoo则能隔几分钟就更换一张墙纸。虽然都不大起眼不过始终在发展。至于两者未来发展的态势，主要是取决于Java与HTML体系的脚步。考虑到HTML 5发展迅速，WEBGL和Google的03D即将出台，看起来WebOS的发展前景更加光明一些。另外一方面，Android的应用始终不那么吸引人的眼球。 WebOS的应用基本上都很图形化很吸引人，即使界面非常简单。一旦SDK开放直接访问GPU和WebGL开发技术，WebOS的应用界面会更加漂亮。软件发展上目前Apple还是并且未来一段时间内将仍然保持王者位置。不过WebOS和Android已经上路子了，让我们忍耐并期待着吧……

[ Edited by mpan on 2010-12-4 00:02 ]

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-3 13:45

Android与WebOS的稳定性和可用性

When it comes to general use both WebOS and Android have their strong and weak points. Let's start with WebOS. 'TOO MANY CARDS' This notification is quite annoying and seems to happen even more often since 1.3.1. Sometimes you get this error when you don't have any applications open which basically forces you to restart the phone. Then you have the general sluggishness throughout the entire OS. Every time you close an app on WebOS and open the launcher there is a brief lag between the time you tell the phone to close the app and the time the app actually closes and clears out of memory. This causes the next app you launch to have a frustrating delay. Scrolling lists in WebOS can be painful too. Email, Calendar, and the Phone app on WebOS all fit into this category. Scrolling a long list of emails, changing screens within the dialer, and switching days in the calendar. These are all very frustratingly simple and laggy tasks and sometimes can be baffling that they take so long to complete. Palm knows about the speed issues and is working on it so we have to keep our fingers crossed. Let's hope some fixes come out before people open their Pre's on Christmas morning and don't like it because it is slow.

从一般性使用的角度看WebOS和Android都有它们各自的强项和弱点。先看看WebOS，那个啥，‘Too Many Card’提示，实在让人觉得搓火，而且自从升级到1.3.1以后似乎发生得更加频繁。有时候甚至没有运行任何程序也会发生，而且不得不重启手机才能解决问题。（已经有一些针对这个名声远播的缺陷的处理办法。在1.4.1下本人调整过一些内存参数后，几乎不再出现这个问题。--译者注）。另外，还有些在整个OS中都能遇到的郁闷事情，例如，每次关闭一个应用程序并打开启动栏的时候，在关闭程序和程序真正关闭并清理完内存之间，会有个明显的停顿。如果马上启动下一个应用，你只能无奈地等着上一个关闭慢腾腾地完成。 WebOS下滚动列表的体验某种程度上说也是相当苦恼的，邮件、日历和电话应用都有这个问题。滚动email长列表，在拨号程序中更换界面（指拨号盘、联系人和呼叫记录页面）、日历程序中切换日期等等都是如此。有些看起来很简单的事情，也会莫名其妙的用掉很长时间或者看起来磕磕绊绊的。 Palm知道速度的问题并且正在解决，所以我们还可以再耐心观察。希望在圣诞节前（09年的）能有进展。（这里原文写得相当苦涩，可以体会作者那种超级郁闷的心情。不过，确实Palm已经在速度问题上大有改观，1.4.1就已经明显有改善，据说2.0爽得很，几乎不会出现迟滞现象。--译者注）

Droid on the other hand is super fast when completing tasks. Yes it has the exact same TI OMAP 3430 chip that is in the Pre. So why is the Droid faster? Android 2.0 would have to be my best guess. It is more refined. Scrolling lists is super smooth, launching applications is very quick, and getting things done is not an issue because there is little to no lag. Android is not without its problems. Since using the Droid I have had it restart on me twice. Not exactly sure what caused the restart, but it happened while I had a few apps open and was launching another application. Then you have the 'Force Close' message. It reminds me of the days of Windows Vista. Sometimes when you are using an application there is an error that tells you to force close. It doesn't say what caused the problem, how it could be prevented, or provide any links to help on the subject. Sometimes when this happens it causes every app to crash and other times only the app you were most recently using crashes. I am not sure if these are just bugs with Android 2.0 that need to get worked out by developers and Google over time, but it is definitely not a heartening experience. Overall both platforms perform well enough to get done basic tasks and both need their work.

Droid完全相反，关闭程序响应非常快。难过就难过在Pre和Droid用的一样的TI OMAP3430的CPU。可为什么Droid要快得多呢？ Android 2.0给了我们答案——更加细致的优化。滚动列表相当平顺，启动程序非常快，程序结束也基本没有迟滞。 Android不是没有问题，自从开始用Droid，这个宝贝儿已经莫名重启了两次了，而且也不知道究竟是什么导致的重启，但是大致都是在开启了几个程序后，再打开新程序的时候发生的。系统会提醒“强制关闭”，这不禁让人想起著名的Windows Vista... 有时候正在使用某个程序，系统也会蹦出“强制关闭”的提示，除了这几个字啥都没有，哪个程序触发的、怎么能避免或者如何寻找解决方法的帮助提示等等，神马都没有。而且每次的表现也不大一样，有时候所有的程序会全都宕掉，另外一些时候可能只是当前程序的崩溃。不清楚是不是Android 2.0的核心里有些必须由开发者和Google都花点儿时间才能搞掂的问题，但这肯定不是让人愉快的经历。

除了刚才所说的问题，两个平台的能力都很不错，所有应该具备的基本功能都还可以，二者也都有许多需要继续改进的地方。

mpan · 发表于 2010-12-3 13:59

Conclusion:

结论：

WebOS and Android are so similar and so different at the same time it really is hard to tell which is better. They both have their strong points and they both have their weak points. WebOS is easier to use and a bit easier on the eyes when it comes to the UI. Android allows you to do a lot more customization and tweaking but is a little bit less user friendly. Android has behind it the fact that it is an open source operating system and there are multiple manufacturers working on putting out the best Android devices possible. Palm is working on getting its WebOS into customer's hands and only has two devices. There is room in the market for both platforms. If I had to recommend a phone to someone just joining the smartphone community for the first time, I would feel obligated to recommend the Pre because of how easy it is to use. If I was recommending the phone to someone who loves customization and is coming off another platform, I might recommend the Droid. So what platform do you prefer and why? Me personally, I will be using Android and WebOS for a long time and I am excited to see how each one develops.

WebOS和Android两个产品又像又不像，真的很难说哪个更好些。二者都有各自的强项，弱点也都挺明显。 WebOS易于使用，UI更耐看。 Android可以做更多的客户化和更细的设置，但是友好性不够。容易被忽略的一点是：Android是个开放源码的OS，有许多厂家在努力提供最好和更好的Android设备。 Palm也在推介自己的平台，但目前手机只有两款。留给二者的市场空间还很大。如果要给（智能手机的）小白推荐，那么选择Pre是个负责任的建议，因为Pre更加容易使用。如果给老鸟或者（软件）优化发烧友推荐，那么Android是个不错的选择。如果要问个人倾向性，我本人会选择双机一起用，两个平台的后续发展都非常值得期待。

[ Edited by mpan on 2010-12-3 14:03 ]

来自未来的OS · 发表于 2010-12-3 14:27

顶顶顶 ~~~

:)1

88136578 · 发表于 2010-12-3 23:10

原文。还是看原文吧

61685191 · 发表于 2010-12-3 23:27

我也感觉翻译的挺好的。简单看了几句，真的挺到位的，自己觉得要全翻译出来得好几天时间。

顺风行科技 · 发表于 2010-12-8 00:12

呵呵不错

xiejinjin · 发表于 2010-12-8 00:32

看完的感觉反而是觉得可以试试Android，特别是Webos的软件还没有成熟的时候。有没有 Pixi PK Moto 的Droid Pro的？都是直板键盘机！

iking1314 · 发表于 2010-12-19 15:39

刚看上面全英文是时候我知道我十几年的英语白学了

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