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[软硬件讨论] [ZT]Treo Vs iPhone 的十个回合

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发表于 2007-7-4 15:23 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
想来这种对比与我们中国无关.; l3 v3 x6 H+ Y+ V
不仅是因为iPhone根本没在美国以外的地区发售.! W& t3 P- C( ~
更主要的是Treo在中国销售的650和680都是很多地方都差一大截的,根本与目前的Treo755无法相提并论(不仅是硬件,而且包括系统方面)..* H+ Y2 o; u0 G# ]7 f; y

3 T# K" f/ L% s不过也可以看看别人的意见..相对而言,如果你是商务用户,Treo在很多方面要胜出; 如果你是普通的消费用户,仅外形一项iPhone就足以把TREO 打得满地找牙了)4 t6 ~; Y1 ~3 T- B5 h; F( R3 r

3 O( }- z& U: A因为不少朋友看不懂英文或是懒得看..这里简单地把各项对比的情况整理一下
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Editorial: 10 Rounds with the iPhone
4 K; O/ q4 K) ^. K3 U" EBy: Tim Carroll) D% s% T8 o* H4 o$ {
July 4, 2007iDay has come and gone, and the first iPhones have made their way intothe hot, grubby hands of gadget geeks and Apple cultists. It's animportant phase: how well is this svelte little beauty going to bear upunder the hypercritical gaze of enthusiasts without the patented SteveJobs Reality Distortion Field surrounding it? In the words of theBoston Globe's Hiawatha Bray:+ p% L9 L, X- M* U) M( d

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"After the relentless buildup of the past sixmonths, the temptation to trash Apple Inc.'s new iPhone is pretty muchirresistible. If only I could."
But Miss Bray shouldn't fret: PIC is more than happy to give in totemptation. Six months ago when Steve Jobs claimed to have“revolutionized” the phone, we put the so-called “God Machine” upagainst Palm's Treo and concluded that while formidable, it's not theperfect device and could be beaten. Now that we have fresh, unbiasedopinions coming in, it's time to see whether or not the Treo stillpasses muster. Let's take a walk down memory lane...* T2 g( V' O1 e0 k

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500,000 freaking first-weekend sales.That's the number being floated by analysts after the iPhone'smassively hyped launch. You can practically hear the AT&T execslaughing all the way to bank: half a million new two-year contracts intwo days is a massive coup for them that no doubt has Verizon feelingmighty foolish. (Verizon, if you'll recall, reportedly rejected the iPhone, for fear of giving Apple too much control over their subscribers.)
8 Q5 R7 D* {! NBut this was to be expected: with all the iPhone mania in the press andApple's own genius marketing, the launch was always going to be huge -attracting not just Apple fans and gadget lovers, but eBay scalpers aswell (current going price: $16,000 AUD.) Interestingly, a few sites have reportedthat most Apple stores still have plenty of stock. Were Apple hopingfor a sellout? Who knows, but by any measure it was still a greatlaunch for them and AT&T. It will be interesting to see how salesfare once the craze calms down.  ?- I8 W  E) Y3 L& C
I'm saying all this to point out that we're not here to debatethe success of the iPhone - because no one could deny it was a goodlaunch – but simply to see how it stacks up against Palm's bestefforts. Let's get started.0 I, t' N" w. \7 |! [2 i

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8 H7 H% A5 }/ g4 W8 G0 sWith all the bells, whistles and doodads that are part and parcel ofthe modern cellphone, it's sometimes easy to forget that you have touse these things for talking, too. Fortunately for all of us, it's easyto declare a winner in this category: it's the Treo by a wide margin,almost purely by the virtue of one simple thing: buttons. Real,honest-to-god physical buttons that you can feel without needing tolook. Touchscreens are fantastic – in fact, I can't see myself everbuying a device without one again – but they are not the be-all andend-all. iPhone in particular is going to require two-handed usage moreoften than phones with buttons. This is a completely unavoidablesituation on a control surface with no tactile feedback. No gettingaround it. / [; g# K  b# l" Z/ t$ M
Plus, dialing a contact on a Treo is as simple as tapping out a fewletters, whereas on the iPhone you'll need to 'flick' through pageafter page to get to the number you're after. Yes, you can skip to acertain alphabetical section of your contacts, but that's still not asprecise or as quick. Visual voicemail is very impressive, but notenough to compensate for the other problems. Finally, only Apple couldcome up with a phone that requires two steps to hang up from anotherapp and then call it “revolutionary”. Next, please! Treo 1, iPhone 0.7 c0 c; ]" [1 @) C1 u1 n

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6 k% b5 _% K0 k% t- x4 Q9 o* \5 BHere'sanother easy choice, and partly for the same reason as last time: realkeys are simply easier to type on than virtual ones. But there's moreto it than just that: stunningly, iPhone doesn't support MMS, amessaging feature that has been around for ages now. Want to quicklyfire off a picture to a friends phone? It's email or bust, pal. Bigkudos to Apple for implementing threaded SMS, a feature pioneered onthe Treo, but they still come up short. Treo 2, iPhone 0.
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This one's a little more complicated. Do we judge the Treo purely onit's built-in Versamail - which has copped a lot of flak forinstability issues - or do we expand the field to include third-partyemail applications like the excellent Chattermail? To keep thingssimple we'll use Versamail as our comparison. iPhone's email isvisually impressive, and has features like in-line photos that leaveVersamail in the dust. It's also compatible with POP3, IMAP and Yahoopush email, so consumers – the main target market – will find most oftheir bases covered.: `+ r2 S3 _, Y+ O1 V
Of course, iPhone users still have to contend with a virtualkeyboard. Plus, for the business user, it's hard to go past a Treo,which can be configured to do any kind of email you want. And if you don't likeVersamail, then you have other options. If you don't like iPhone'simplementation, you're stuck with it. So while iPhone's email isvisually impressive, it's still not as functional as a Treo – which iswhy this round goes to Palm. Treo 3, iPhone 0.: v6 `' j1 ?7 O% c; K; Y7 d4 m/ H
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And now the tables turn. Listen up, Palm: Blazer is a joke. It waspretty good a couple of years ago, but nowadays is just not up toscratch. iPhone on the other hand gives us a stripped-down version ofSafari, a speedy and well-designed desktop Web browser now optimisedfor a small screen. But this ain't no Pocket IE or Opera Mini: itrenders full web pages and meshes them with intelligent touch-controlsto give us what is unequivocally the most impressive mobile web browserto date.5 j# H! |5 b  m5 \3 k
There's no Flash, there's no Java. But that's true of prettymuch every other mobile browser as well. There's no 3G, which is acrushing omission for such an advanced device, but wi-fi is in there ascompensation. All in all, features like the realistic rendering, smartzooming and smooth landscape switching set a new benchmark for mobileInternet that will be hard to match. iPhone 1, Treo 3.
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$ C2 G) b  z- o4 N5 D2 r" Q0 |The cellphone camera is a wonderfully useful thing to have. While youwouldn't want to use one to capture important pictures – wedding,birthdays, stuff like that – they're great for those spur-of-the-momentsituations. Palm's cameras to date have been woeful; the Treo 680'scamera does a great job given that it's only got 0.3mp to work with,but in this day and age the idea of shipping a VGA camera on asmartphone is ridiculous. Even the more advanced 1.3mp cam in the 700pand 755pis average at best. iPhone, on the other hand, has a pretty good 2mpcamera. It looks pretty terrible in low light situations, but then veryfew mobile cameras don't. Of course, you can't MMS those pictures toyour friends... but that's not the camera's fault.# ^- C1 Z2 ?; J9 [) g1 d
Thestrangest omission is the lack of any kind of video recordingfunctionality. Were Palm's video recording of any real quality I wouldgive this round to the Treo, but since all Treo videos are limited to amaximum resolution of 352 x 288 they're usually not worth takinganyways. iPhone wins. iPhone 2, Treo 3.8 e7 m, U) t( p( u* P& P
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: B/ ]& B( s! w- N+ t5 X! FIf you're willing to shell out for additional software, then I'd hesitantly give this round to Palm, for which you can bolt on useful stuff like Bluetooth A2DP and even an iPod interface if you're so inclined (see mOcean); which can stream a large selection of internet radio stations; and CorePlayer which can play the world's most popular video format, DivX.
' L$ f. Q9 }' Y5 G% q6 SBut out of the box an iPhone blows the Treo out of the water, and it'smostly due to two things: a large screen and iTunes. I personally can'tstand iTunes, but I know I'm in the minority there; most seem to findit more than acceptable, and it's hard to argue against the simplicityof its syncing process. Palm instead relies on third-party musicsyncing with clunky nightmares like Windows Media Player, and since thetransfer speed is so slow you're usually better off going through thecumbersome process of inserting and removing SD cards in order to copy files with a high-speed card reader.
" i8 G; p# b# z" ~$ M$ x8 uiPhone's iPod functionality is visually stunning, with the supremelyuseless but eye-pleasing Cover Flow demonstrating just what you canachieve with graphics on a mobile device if you make the effort. Likemany things on the iPhone, it looks so prettyyou can't help but want to play with it. It's odd that Apple hasn'tincluded any kind of background playback controls - apart fromplay/pause and next via the earbud button, but that's not adealbreaker. I've never liked the way the iPod handles playlistcreation and 'flicking' the touchscreen to get through your librarycould get frustrating in the long term, but overall it's just a bettermedia player than the standard version of Pocket Tunes that Palm includes with the Treo. iPhone 3, Treo 3.' f: a* Q0 Y' N
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Make no bones about it, Apple's new multi-touch technology is indeedrevolutionary. But as we've touched on earlier, touchscreens are thenot always the best way to input commands. The iPhone is going torequire two hands to use in most situations. That's just not goodenough to best the Treo's combination of touchscreen, hard buttons,exposed keyboard and intelligent one-handed d-pad navigation.
. c4 Z/ k- p" |9 nAsstated earlier, to hang up a call from another app in the iPhone, youhave to first switch back to the on-call screen and then press end call– and try doing that without looking. On a Treo you press the redbutton. To switch apps on an iPhone, you'll always have to navigateback to the Home screen first, whereas on a Treo you have all the majorfunctions one button away. These also double as a way of turning thedevice on, so even when it's switched off it's easy to get what youwant with one press/ (You may also have to press the center button tounlock the keyguard, depending on your settings.) Not so with theiPhone; first you'll have to turn it on with the top-mounted powerbutton, then slide your finger across the screen to unlock it, thenpress Home, then open whatever it is you're after. Unnecessarilycumbersome. Apple should employ a tap counter.+ p: w7 y8 ]0 h+ L; Y
Palm OS can't claim total victory: Garnet is ancient and has well-known instability issues, but these are a lot rarer on the newer 680 and 755pTreos, to the point of being a non-issue. Overall it's still the mostuser-friendly mobile OS. Oh, and last but not least, iPhone can't evencopy-and-paste. Like MMS, it's a stupid omission for such an advanceddevice. Point to Palm. Treo 4, iPhone 3.
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The iPhone comes with a pretty good built-in software package thatshould satisfy the needs of most average users. But you shouldn'texpect to get anymore out of it than what's already included; you'll bestuck with iPhone-compatible web applications as your only source ofextra functionality. Given iPhone's gorgeous UI and powerful OS (astripped down version of the Unix-based Mac OS X), it's an egregiouskick in the face for smartphone fans. This thing is begging for third-party support, and the Mac developer community is an asset that Apple is foolish to waste.$ B- e6 @" G! }8 b
It may be that Apple will eventually open up the iPhone – in fact, I'malmost certain of it – but for now it just screams wasted potential. ATreo on the other hand offers an app for almost anything you mayconceivably want to do with your phone, from call recorders to games to note-taking apps to shopping lists to diet assistants to password keepers. Don't like the built-in phone app? Replace it with something jazzier like DialByPhoto. Don't like the PIM apps? Replace them with something more powerful like Agendus or Datebk6.% v1 U& N. W" ], n; _( T7 B
No contest, Treo wins. Treo 5, iPhone 3.
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0 X1 ?9 N2 |9 m' k1 U' ]) kBy all reports the iPhone is a solidly built device with a surprisinglygood battery life, although you're still not going to get more than aday out of it. It features WiFi, Bluetooth and an array of intelligentsensors that will adjust the brightness, lock the screen and rotate thepicture. It's got a handy Treo-style silent switch, a large screen anda 3.5mm headphone jack, and it's thin. In short it has everythingthat Treo owners have been clamoring for for years. Palm should beembarrassed. Although the Palm has the edge on speed – having had 3Gfor awhile now – and the benefit of physical buttons, it's not up tothe same standard.9 F: t6 k1 b) Z- W
Apple's hardware has always been of high quality andspecifically designed to inspire gadget lust. iPhone is no exceptionand kills the Treo stone-cold dead in this category. iPhone 4, Treo 5.( {6 M6 W: K9 W) g( a

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6 e! P9 z+ C2 EI'll keep this short: Palm Desktop and Hotsync have always been reliableworkhorses for me, but they are outdated and don't fully meet the needsof modern mobile devices. iTunes on the other hand looks modern, syncsvideo, photos and music effortlessly and is can sync your PIM data withOutlook, probably the most popular desktop PIM software. As mentionedearlier, I have no great love for iTunes, but it's definitely asuperior syncing solution to the Palm Desktop. iPhone 5, Treo 5.
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0 Y) A9 {5 w& u$600 with contract is a lot to ask for a phone. Especially afirst-generation product. To put it bluntly, it's exorbitant. You canget a Treo 680 for free nowadays on a contract, and with that you couldget an 8GB SD card, a sweet pair of wireless headphones, all the best third-party Palm OS apps and still not pay as much as you would for an iPhone.
/ a/ |/ j" N. A9 QFeel free to challenge this in the comments, but this little black duck sees a Treo as better value for money. By far. iPhone 5, Treo 6.
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Regular PIC readers will have seen me make these points at one time oranother ever since the iPhone was announced, so my conclusion won'tcome as much of a surprise: when you break it down category-by-categorythe Treo still has a slight edge over the iPhone.
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But that's all hypothetical. In the here and now, the Treo isstill the best smartphone available: user-friendly, fully featured,expandable and as versatile as you want it to be. It may crashoccasionally. It's not pretty. It's not going to stop people in thestreet. But it's still the more useful and productive device with better value for money. And that's what really counts. -Tim

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http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9491/palm-treo-vs-the-iphone-10-rounds/
发表于 2007-7-4 15:52 | 显示全部楼层
沙發,雖然看不懂得英文。 不過兩個都喜歡
发表于 2007-7-4 16:49 | 显示全部楼层
其实很多对比。。。像CASIO300块的手表和雷达几万的手表的横向比较起来,也有很多优势,可是。。。。。。啥叫档次。。。。啥叫拉风。。。。。。
发表于 2007-7-4 16:50 | 显示全部楼层
没有什么意思
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-4 16:55 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,..最后一段总结的很有些意思...
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"尽管很多人觉得iPhone比TREO领先不少,但是TREO也有自己的优势.
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尽管TREO看起来没有那么炫,没那么可爱,没那么吸引别人的视线,但是目前来看TREO仍然是性价比很好的,一个真正的好用的有价值的智能手机..."
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其实这些在很大程度上源于iPhone与TREO定位不同..TREO总共卖了可能只有200W台不到.1 a4 W8 m, w( m0 K2 ]
但是iPhone发行后2天就卖了50W台...两种产品差别太大了..从市场角度来说根本没有可比性...
) o+ M7 t/ f% u4 Q喜欢iPhone的人会不再考虑TREO.
' g! a* C7 F0 ~2 `* s喜欢TREO的人仍然会用TREO..但是也会自己找机会想试试iPhone...
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原帖由 寂夜清风 于 2007-7-4 16:55 发表 : G* ]* _8 Z1 o1 Y# \1 \& Q  y  c3 R
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  ^5 J* v! `& v9 B" \6 O7 A其实这些在很大程度上源于iPhone与TREO定位不同..TREO总共卖了可能只有200W台不到.
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6 I+ |2 T. U. |7 l6 j8 X; f+ ZTREO总共不到200W台??那650不是总共不到100W台左右了??
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发表于 2007-7-5 13:26 | 显示全部楼层

[转帖]用户自评iPhone与Palm功能 Palm略胜一筹

导读:iPhone在手机业和苹果用户中掀起了一场前所未有的狂热,尽管好评如潮,但也不乏质疑之声,国外媒体7月4日刊登了一位Palm用户的评估结果:虽然苹果iPhone手机上周末上市后已售出50多万部,但其性能并没有完全超越其他智能手机。下面就是这位爱好者对iPhone与Palm Treo手机的11项性能比较,观点可能存在瑕疵,仅供参考。  1、语音通话
6 T$ l) ?$ y3 Z" L; g3 p  无论手机功能多么全面,其基本功能当然是语音通话。从手机按键上看,Treo使用物理按键,iPhone则使用触摸屏显示。多数情况下,用户可单手使用物理按键开始或结束通话,而触摸屏可能需用双手。再一点,iPhone通常需要点开数个界面后才能到达拨号页面。得分:Treo 1分;iPhone 0分。1 g# u1 L% A$ c9 B6 c
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. [: y& y& d3 ?7 {( B$ k/ G( u  与语音通话一样,按键设计也是衡量收发短信功能的重要标准之一。毫无疑问,真实按键易用性高于虚拟按键。最为关键的是,iPhone并不支持多媒体短信(MMS),而Treo则支持此功能。累计得分:Treo 2分;iPhone 0分。
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  该功能“比拼”稍显复杂。Treo自带Versamail邮件收发软件性能不太稳定,但第三方Chattermail软件却很稳定。为简化起见,评比使用Versamail与iPhone比较。从功能上看,iPhone邮件服务集成了较多功能,如兼容POP3、IMAP和雅虎邮件推送等功能。但iPhone这些功能都必须通过虚拟按键进行。对于企业用户来说,他们更愿意使用Treo,如果他们不喜欢Versamail,也可使用第三方软件。即使用户不满意iPhone自带邮件的功能配置,也无法使用第三方软件。累计得分:Treo 3分;iPhone 0分。6 ?" C: p  B1 `4 s* a
  4、网页浏览
( A  x: B# f) O6 g  Treo使用Blazer浏览器,该产品前两年性能很好,如今却显得有些过时。iPhone使用经过优化的Safari浏览器,它能显示整个网页,并可通过触摸控制显示局部内容;虽然该浏览器不支持Flash和Java,但其他手机浏览器也大多如此。此外,iPhone不支持3G,但支持Wi-Fi。iPhone网页浏览还具有智能缩放、平滑图像转换等功能,为手机网页浏览制定了新标准。累计得分:iPhone 1分;Treo 3分。5 s+ i& w, ?0 _+ R  T- G
  5、拍照功能! ~* y* W; o* i1 o1 l7 _( N
  Treo的拍照配置已稍显过时,Treo 680采用30万像素摄像头。iPhone采用200万像素摄像头,但没有视频录像功能。由于Treo具有视频录像功能,故这轮比较Treo胜出。累计得分:iPhone 2分;Treo 3分。
9 Y% T# v7 K' j; a) Z5 }, z% [  6、媒体播放
* a4 U$ k5 z  q8 k$ q1 E0 C- x  iPhone屏幕较大,支持苹果iTunes音乐商店。Palm则依赖第三方音乐服务。累计得分:iPhone 3分;Treo 3分。
& i2 T6 \0 x6 M6 E# J  7、易用性
# h8 j3 N9 G9 Q% H  s. e  iPhone触摸屏带来了新观念,但触摸屏易出现不响应问题,多数情况下,iPhone需要两只手一起使用。而Treo则是由物理按键与触摸屏相结合。累计得分:Treo 4分;iPhone 3分。9 `" S5 g1 r$ m; K4 \) x3 q) \
  8、第三方软件
  D8 }. {# q+ g6 V  iPhone预装软件包,可满足多数消费者的一般需求,但目前还不支持第三方软件。Treo则支持第三方软件,用户选择余地得以扩大。累计得分:Treo 5分;iPhone 3分。" ~3 {3 E0 ~2 D, s
  9、硬件配置
8 s4 {5 h0 N5 r9 l  iPhone电池寿命,屏幕、重量等配置都高于iPhone。但Treo支持3G,具有真实按键。累计得分:iPhone 4分;Treo 5分。! F5 ]5 V6 K# _9 `3 Z$ m& j2 |$ I
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  Palm Desktop和Hotsync性能稳定,但稍显过时。iPhone支持iTunes及视频、图像等同步功能。累计得分:iPhone 5分;Treo 5分。$ F9 c/ a' t/ ~1 U3 p& e2 o, C/ N
  11、售价
: L7 d5 s* F$ C7 K. k8 [4 a3 _1 L3 \  iPhone售价为600美元,且用户需与运营商签订服务合同。这对第一代iPhone来说售价有些过高。如果用户选择Treo 680,与运营签订服务合同后可免费获得。累计得分:iPhone 5分;Treo 6分
! k, R3 u8 H* ^1 T9 G1 e' e  这位Palm手机爱好者最后指出,经过上面逐条分析可看出,虽然iPhone具有不少先进功能,但Treo仍略胜一筹;如果iPhone今后支持第三方软件,则其优势将压过Treo。
发表于 2007-7-5 13:54 | 显示全部楼层
顶一个!!
发表于 2007-7-5 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
650支持3G吗??这文章明显太偏了,不过也能反映一些问题.
发表于 2007-7-5 15:41 | 显示全部楼层
为啥iPhone比treo好的项 就是平分或者iPhone只高一分啊?
发表于 2007-7-5 17:25 | 显示全部楼层
TREO没有一项输给IPHONE??
 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-5 18:13 | 显示全部楼层
这纯粹是从TREO的角度来看...实际上只会让别人更笑话TREO用家的心态
发表于 2007-7-5 19:59 | 显示全部楼层
还是treo的键盘爽
发表于 2007-7-5 20:06 | 显示全部楼层
真正比较的结果,应该商家心里比我们清楚
发表于 2007-7-5 21:34 | 显示全部楼层
iphone和palm就不适合放在一起比较,没啥意义
发表于 2007-7-5 21:52 | 显示全部楼层
  图不错,收了
发表于 2007-7-8 19:42 | 显示全部楼层
Paim应该好点!
发表于 2007-7-14 23:06 | 显示全部楼层
早有IPHONE,我就不买palm了,毕竟IPHONE还是好看些嘛
发表于 2007-7-16 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
iphone还是好东西~~~- H1 [; K9 w, N7 J; r1 g( |7 f& i

1 m; |9 C3 s: M. Q4 t比较的话,palm除了第三方软件这些优势以外没有什么优势~~~
发表于 2007-7-18 13:16 | 显示全部楼层
楼上好多没看懂的,
$ U- W5 E" G5 [" q6 O" u  A每项都是给获胜者+1分
: D* s# N. p. c! m/ h所以一共11项,最后6:5,加起来就是11分- M6 E) e9 _  j( B  e2 g2 ^4 Y
这个翻译做的实在不怎么样1 f) m8 r) c$ Q( C" t6 D
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[ 本帖最后由 mw_jupiter 于 2007-7-18 13:19 编辑 ]
发表于 2007-7-18 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
那是累计得分。
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4 l  g* d" d: g( N8 O没什么意义的比较,根本就不是一个档次的产品。' ~+ q0 j$ Y" Z9 a8 V1 k+ L1 o
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事实上iPhone的很多优点是Treo所无法企及的,比如系统高效、稳定,运行速度快,简单易用、上手超快,内置软件的完善度非一般智能手机可以比拟,Web Browser更是绝杀。
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用Treo的使用习惯去评价iPhone的使用方法,又怎么能得出客观的结论?
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& U/ I4 B1 L' }- m! n2 j另外,Palm OS核心的Treo手机不可能支持3G,因为Palm OS根本就无法实现3G的数据和语音同步。
发表于 2007-8-14 14:42 | 显示全部楼层
等同于拿保时捷和奔驰S600比较,无聊
发表于 2007-8-14 15:52 | 显示全部楼层
又是这个狗屁评测,把读者当傻子。8 G/ k5 ~+ A2 l8 h( Q3 o

4 x6 \* H3 }" e; c. [不说其内容是否客观,但是其中黑白颠倒的行为实在令人瞠目结舌。
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例如Web那一项的文字里面,叙述的意思明明就是iphone完胜Treo,Treo唯一的优点就是支持3G,就这样,得分却是treo 3分而iphone 1分。
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Media那一项又是如此,这么看下来iphone居然没有任何一项得分能比Treo高,是任何一项——你觉得这合理吗?# T0 ~$ c: X2 L- z

( G1 n9 ]: \6 D& V4 e* G6 F7 V9 m5 {建议楼主转这种垃圾帖子之前先仔细阅读并作出提示,否则真的是侮辱了大家的智商。
发表于 2007-8-14 16:00 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 squallssck 于 2007-7-5 14:04 发表
  [  x6 n. I+ d1 |4 O650支持3G吗??这文章明显太偏了,不过也能反映一些问题.

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3 m( l' y1 }+ L+ I: y650当然不支持3G,凡是GSM的Treo现在都不支持3G.) @5 o/ E' r4 ~

5 O+ y# a: L. m) {; U但是755P支持作为CDMA升级的EVDO 3G。
发表于 2007-8-14 17:46 | 显示全部楼层
专业!顶起!
发表于 2007-8-14 21:43 | 显示全部楼层
米啊
发表于 2007-11-17 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
TREO用着不错
发表于 2007-12-1 14:20 | 显示全部楼层
还是都喜欢啊
发表于 2007-12-12 17:39 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 sigmasun 于 2007-8-14 15:52 发表 $ Y) P  Q# ]3 q
又是这个狗屁评测,把读者当傻子。
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不说其内容是否客观,但是其中黑白颠倒的行为实在令人瞠目结舌。
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例如Web那一项的文字里面,叙述的意思明明就是iphone完胜Treo,Treo唯一的优点就是支持3G,就这样,得分却是 ...
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( o- s. A% y5 w; j' B3 g又是一个没看懂的......
发表于 2007-12-14 18:41 | 显示全部楼层
Treo 更适合商务人士用.我感觉它很好用.有手感.
发表于 2007-12-19 21:31 | 显示全部楼层
不管Iphone如何好,我只喜欢全键盘,喜欢免费的第三方软件,喜欢自定义ROM。
) G) _- w+ l! _曾经买了苹果的30Gvideo,用了5天退回去了,同步方式简直就是垃圾!估计iphone的同步方式也一样,一点兴趣也没有。
发表于 2007-12-19 21:35 | 显示全部楼层
路过~~顶下!!!:)1 严重支持treo
发表于 2007-12-19 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
iPhone除了不太好打电话,其余都很悬
发表于 2007-12-20 18:37 | 显示全部楼层
Palm日薄西山,咱们也只能自我YY一下了,不过我还是继续用Palm直到他散架为止(当然,一定双枪) , a: ?, A! ?9 E

3 M) n: N8 Q$ |5 w) R( l. p[ 本帖最后由 麦客爱吹友 于 2007-12-20 18:39 编辑 ]
发表于 2008-1-19 22:26 | 显示全部楼层

回复 21# 的帖子

有位同学说“等同于拿保时得捷和奔驰S600比较”,意义差不多,不能说是不同档次的产品,应该说是不同定位的产品。:)1              iphone未见得就更稳定,有个200万的摄像头也不能就说是硬件全面超越palm,palm却更快,相要的功能都可以找到。用palm的人出于外形大多想买iphone,但最终要转入使用,谁也不会买个手机中看不中用,用起来方便才是最重要的。
发表于 2008-1-20 09:47 | 显示全部楼层
哇塞,不认识u
发表于 2008-1-20 12:22 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 chris7601 于 2008-1-19 22:26 发表
6 N' a4 H/ N  E0 o1 N有位同学说“等同于拿保时得捷和奔驰S600比较”,意义差不多,不能说是不同档次的产品,应该说是不同定位的产品。:)1              iphone未见得就更稳定,有个200万的摄像头也不能就说是硬件全面超越palm,palm却更 ...
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2 G; r) p: n" f7 j0 W硬件确实不在一个档次,这点得承认,- u" B+ E* e# b  x! W
不过是还是那点:定位不同
发表于 2008-2-24 21:42 | 显示全部楼层

花里胡哨就是iphone

我认为选择palm的多为一路玩过来的“家”,而上iphone的多为一窝的“蜂”,以为是apple的就是经典,我认为apple的设计绝对是经典的,不过从外形及内涵两方面来看绝对是palm,这就是外烧和内烧的区别,烧得肤浅和烧得醇厚的区别!
3 m+ K$ \+ }' ?- ]% }个人一直认为apple在本本上的执拗那是个性,再到ipod就让人觉得落俗了,现在又来pone界充“玩家”,给人的感觉就是做作。. f( r: k4 x' I1 g
这就像艳照门中的女主角(大名就不报了,稍微留点口德),以前你可能会认为她的举动是天真可爱的,如果现在还这样,那大家肯定就要作呕了!
发表于 2008-2-25 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
可能的话还是希望两个都用用看,但是没有米。' A$ K$ L3 V! l- O
  不用的话是很难知道谁更优一些的,但用户的角度也是不同的。像我对键盘就有偏好,但也不一定用不惯全触摸的iphone。
发表于 2008-3-30 11:34 | 显示全部楼层
楼主,硬件那一项整理错了,是Treo 5,iPhone 4
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